Four senior teams competing in CWOSSA basketball qualifier

So much for later this week.

WCSSAA has released details of its four-team CWOSSA senior boys basketball qualifying tournament, which will feature four teams and start on Thursday.

Bluevale, WCI, Eastwood and Grand River will take part, meaning Huron Heights, Sir John A. Macdonald, Cameron Heights and Forest Heights will not. Waterloo-Oxford did not have a team when play halted in early December.

SJAM, Grand River and WCI will have junior teams competing and their schedules will also include exhibition games with KCI, a triple-A school.

Here's what we've got.

Boys Basketball AAAA Qualifiers

Thursday February 14

Senior
Away        Home    Time    Location
GRCI    vs    ECI    3:30pm    ECI
WCI    vs    BCI    3:30pm    BCI

Junior
Away        Home    Time    Location
WCI    vs    SJAM    3:30pm    SJAM
GRCI    vs    KCI    3:30pm    KCI      (Exhibition Play)

Tuesday February 19

Senior
Away        Home    Time    Location
BCI    vs    GRCI    5:00pm    GRCI
ECI    vs    WCI    5:00pm    WCI

Junior
Away        Home    Time    Location
SJAM    vs    GRCI    3:30pm    GRCI
KCI    vs    WCI    3:30pm    WCI     (Exhibition Play)

Thursday February 21

Senior
Away        Home    Time    Location
ECI    vs    BCI    3:30pm    BCI
GRCI    vs    WCI    3:30pm    WCI

Junior
Away        Home    Time    Location
GRCI    vs    WCI    5:00pm    WCI
KCI    vs    SJAM    3:30pm    SJAM     (Exhibition Play)

 

Comments

[Bballer]

You are right. Those quitters do not deserve to be mentioned.

[Goran was somewhat happier]

If you're buying comeon I'll take you up on that offer! Actually, I thought we were having a good conversation. Most members of the public have no idea what is really going on- they only know how their kids are affected-- which I appreciate. Can I have take out? ;P

[Comeonguys]

Jobo, Goran, etc... why dont you guys just get together and have a beer and chat about this. Just send each other an email and talk in person like real human beings! just a thought ......

[Goran was somewhat happier]

For CHCI: With respect, one season of no basketball does not a "lost generation" make. That's just silly. For Jobo: I don't understand your question. I said kids could play community sports. I didn't say anything about paying coaches. Although to give you an example, the head coach of Kitchener Minor Soccer IS paid. I also know that the leaders of at least one community track club, although not receiving a salary, are reimbursed for most of their club related expenses and receive a monetary stipend for their time. Which is fair- since they are certified national track coaches. I'm sure this is the same for club baseball, volleyball etc- perhaps not at lower levels, but most likely at the level that people consider to be "scholarship worthy". Remember that most teacher coaches have no such certification- as the Ministry of Education does not pay for them to become certified, nor does it fund those activities that it claims are so important to the student body.
For Tonka: Correction... the school I was mentioning did not return to Bball. The coach, however, was not consulted. Perhaps crossed wires somewhere.

[Jobo]

@Goran - earlier you suggested to the kids to play for community sports. PLEASE NAME ONE COACH THAT IS BEING PAID FOR IT!

[CHCI basketball supporter for 9 years]

Future will show who was right, now we do not know who made decision, Union, school, teachers? Whoever made that decision result is that very talented generation of basketball players at CHCI is being hurt. Their school gave up on them, but I'd like to support them. Boys do not give up! Your fans and parents are with you, and we really appreciate what you did. Earlier in the season they participated at Campion Showdown tournament and where told that they put Kitchener on the basketball map. I agree with Jobo, lets go on participating schools games and show respect to them. Thank you for not giving up on your teams.

[Goran is somewhat happier]

The "inflammatory statement" was in THIS newspaper. And yes, I agree, this is a forum designed to support student athletes AND the teachers that coach them. Jobo, your last comment is reflective of the reality that teachers deal with and the misunderstanding of the general public. Teachers do NOT get paid to coach. Period. Neither does a surgeon. And once the surgeon is done cutting, s/he is not expected to run into the gym to coach basketball. Period. No teacher in this region has given up on his/her resolve to TEACH, as that is what they are paid to do. I hope that sports and clubs return to our schools, but I will not defame my childrens' teachers if they choose not to do so. And please note: I am NOT suggesting that that has been done in this forum. And despite what you hear and read in the media, as well in countless uniformed anonymous online internet postings, there is no secondary school teacher in this area who has been told by the union to stop coaching. That was an individual choice- and, frankly, I don't blame them a bit. For Tonka: the source was the longtime coach. Assuming you are a WCSSAA official, don't believe everything you are told by well meaning, but equally misguided administrators.

[Jobo]

Goran, you where right it was typo, and do not get me wrong I'm not against teachers fight for their rights, but they are using wrong tactic by hurting best of the best students. As you mentioned schools were making decisions. I have strong feeling if decision was up to teachers that are involved in coaching basketball in this example, they will go for it. Their time is really appreciated, and in most cases big shame is going to the school decisions. Hurting these positive students is totally wrong whoever is doing it. If someone of them becomes surgeon, I truly hope they wont stop in the middle of the surgery because they are getting paid only for the half of it. Once again, there are things in the life that no money can buy!
Whoever likes High School basketball lets go to the games of participating schools and show respect for their decisions.

[Tonka]

@goran I would be interested to know where you got your info and which school did not inform their coach. The coaches I have been in contact with at all the schools are the coaches who coached at the beginning of the season. They were the ones who came forward indicating they would like to remember play.

[SportsFan]

No one is bashing...this has been a very respectful forum...because those of us who follow high school sports know and appreciate the teachers who give of their time to coach our kids. Why would you bring an inflammatory statement from someone not involved in this discussion group into a respectful forum, Goran? There's no purpose except to inflame. I've seen those other comment threads, but they have no place here (you said so yourself), so why bring them in? SportsFan not so happy now...

[Goran is somewhat happier]

Jobo, I assume that was a typo, as Ecs are certainly NOT mandatory... but school certainly IS (by law in Ontario). And teachers are not encouraging students to stay in school for a 5th year for any reason (sports or otherwise) since the government does not even provide funding for them to spend an entire additional year there. Your video is very nice. But trust me. Been there, done that. And teachers didn't cause the economic downturn in Ontario. And as stated, I really don't think that sentiment like "screw you teachers. Who cares if you arrogant, lazy, overpaid scumbags ever go back to extra curriculars?" encourages much of anything. I also find it more than interesting to have found out yesterday that one basketball school that is up and running again didn't even advise its long time coach that it was doing so. That does not show respect for the person who gave up countless hours over many years for his student athletes. To me it shows that somebody needs a banner hanging in a gym. And THAT isn't what any of this mess is about.

[Jobo]

Now go ask yourself. WHY on earth would any teacher/coach want to return to the gym, field or elsewhere (as unpaid volunteers) if that is the sentiment that is being expressed in the local press?
Here is the answer why real volunteers are spending hours in the gyms sport fields and on the road. The moments and memories no money can buy.
I wish one of our schools will have it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZGeVKLHMpQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRNvnTQnWQo

[Jobo]

Goran- I agree with you that sports and extracurricular activities are mandatory, but High School is not mandatory too. Extra activities in schools are developing good habits and creating future leaders. Main thing that kids are learning is not to give up in difficult situations oflife. To be able to participate in school sports kids must be good students first and have athletic skills. Do you really know how many of them is taking IB program and how many of them is having an average over 85%? Also all over the region schools and teachers are supporting students to stay 5th year to participate in school sports and lead younger kids by an example. And what happen now they gave up on them. Which example is that? Which students are hurt? Best of the best.
Do you know how many of kids from the picture is playing rep basketball? But to play rep basketball it is not important to be good student, it is important to have money to pay for it! Big respect to 4 participating schools. They are living up their believes and promises and they did not give up on their best. I think their students or athletes will appreciate that their whole life.

[Goran is somewhat happier]

CHCI-- this isn't a pissing contest. I think it's great that SJK is now an IB school. Neither basketball nor any other extracurricular activity is the mandate of a high school in this region. Academics are. A teacher is paid to teach- not to coach. I'm sorry that the kids in that picture don't have any more school basketball, but if they're that good, then they should be playing club Bball in the community. Here's a quote from elsewhere in the Record today (sorry Mark and others): "Screw you teachers. Who cares if you arrogant, lazy, overpaid scumbags ever go back to extra curriculars?" Now go ask yourself. WHY on earth would any teacher/coach want to return to the gym, field or elsewhere (as unpaid volunteers) if that is the sentiment that is being expressed in the local press?

[CHCI basketball supporter for 9 years]

All respect to the teachers of participating schools. Just note SJK has IB school and this year attracted the best basketball players. Is that possibility for talents like Farkic, Simic ....

[Goran is somewhat happier]

12 guys who don't get a chance to play basketball one year of their stay in high school is hardly reflective of the quality of any school, particularly Cameron Heights, whose students in the IB program and across the spectrum, continue to excel academically. Perhaps you should encourage your provincial government to fund extracurriculars and engender some respect for the teacher coaches that give up their time freely. And then you should bash elsewhere. Just a couple of thoughts for the evening.

[CHCI basketball supporter for 9 years]

This is team that CHCI turned their back to http://therecord.blogs.com/hssports/2012/12/shout-out-to-cameron-for-a-job-well-done.html
This is big shame bat should be good lesson for generations that are thinking to come to this school to play basketball or any other sport. They will ask you to give your maximum to them.... but when you need support they will have excuses only