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August 11, 2013

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Alan M

This is a good step forward. One challenge is figuring out how to update the not-insignificant subset of those 8,000,000 motorists who don't understand this material.

Tim C

I think it would be nice if the bike box at Davenport and Lexington were coloured green like in the picture. As it is, it seems pretty invisible to me.

Evan Rosamond

This is good news. It should have happened 40 years ago, but better late than never.
I would also like to see one or two questions about sharing the road on the written driver's exam, with zero tolerance for wrong answers to those questions.
The problem of what to do about the 8,000,000 drivers who have been incompletely tested will be ignored for as long as the politicians can ignore it. Do we all want to be retested? I bet Lower Case bob doesn't.

StephenCrewson

Great news ... and while on the subject of new drivers I have one question. Why are driver's ed vehicles allowed to have tinted windows? How can we make eye contact?

StephenCrewson

Sorry. One question became two. So much for my math skills. LOL

Jean

+1, 1-2 exam questions. Great that the manual in improved on explaining road markings for driver understanding.

Kevin Love

Trust Ontario's MTO to feature inferior design. In places that get it right, such as The Netherlands, Advanced Stop Lines (ASL's)are quite rightly regarded as inferior and rarely used. For an explanation of what is wrong with them, see:

http://www.aviewfromthecyclepath.com/2012/02/love-london-go-slight-head-start-at-asl.html

So if that is wrong, then what is right? Protected intersections!

For an explanation of proper protected intersection design, see:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlApbxLz6pA

Ryan

Not to be too negative, but I don't like it one bit.

I still don't get the point of ASL's (maybe it's because we don't have them here), but they seem like a waste of paint that don't actually provide any safety.
Plus how many cities actually have them in Ontario?

Then there is the cyclist.
Did they really have to go with the 'weekend warrior' look? At least in TV commercials and on billboards, companies now show just everyday people on regular bikes. But the government had to go with a helmeted cyclist with his bright neon coloured shirt and on his road bike.

Another thing to keep in mind. A lot of people go to eBay or Kijiji to buy older handbooks for a cheaper price, so not every new driver will see this.

Kevin Love

Ryan,

To answer your question, at least two cities in Ontario have ASLs [advanced stop line] that I have seen with my own two eyes. Toronto and Hamilton.

In both cities they have been failures for exactly the reasons pointed out by David Hembrow in the link I posted above.

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Bill Bean


  • North America is eventually going to figure out that, for all the right reasons, we need more bicycles on our roads. Dust off your bicycle and go cycling. And if the gas-burning dinosaurs start to crowd you, it's your road and you paid for it. Take the lane for yourself.

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